tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post7379287913791449254..comments2024-02-28T21:09:17.490-08:00Comments on Samantha Sans Dosage: Oh Goddamn It....Samantha Duganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-21115674912178780522013-01-19T13:49:05.674-08:002013-01-19T13:49:05.674-08:00TWG,
Yeah, it's hardly only the Americans that...TWG,<br />Yeah, it's hardly only the Americans that are restricted, we just seem to the only ones that get all hoity while accusing them of being...well, hoity. Not even sure what "Real American" means...<br /><br />Gabe,<br />Oh I don't know, I think California is pretty sexy, not to mention kinda known for making world class wines so I'm not sure what the deal is...other than they are banking of the confusion my Beloved Ron doesn't think there is, and that is precisely why they won't remove Champagne from the label. Kinda shitty and I sincerely think more California wine folks should be pissed about that. <br /><br />Thanks for fighting with me kid, it's all for the greater good and so people are informed..so totally worth it. Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-14955165107450429132013-01-19T12:04:05.469-08:002013-01-19T12:04:05.469-08:00For me, the obvious problem is that there is no se...For me, the obvious problem is that there is no sexy name for California Sparkling Wine and nobody who currently calls it Champagne is going to start calling it California Sparkling Wine just because they change the label.<br /><br />In the Obama vein of turning a problem into an opportunity, maybe California winemakers can use this as an opportunity to solve this problem that has gone on for too long, while also promoting their brand. Hold some stupid convention with all the sparkling wine makers, come up with a fun new name, and use it as a chance to promote California "bubbly" or "fizz" or "whatever dumb name that is not Champagne".<br /><br />Finally Samantha, let me say that I am the wine snob in my group of friends that makes sure everyone knows the difference between sparkling wine and Champagne. It's a thankless job, but an important one. Keep up the good fightAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13849290999060380035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-52255992436001302592013-01-19T07:59:28.054-08:002013-01-19T07:59:28.054-08:00Hell, the French stop growers from within the area...Hell, the French stop growers from within the area labeling wine with the appellation name.<br /><br />Ron, I'm guessing the commitee was contacted before the press release. <br /><br />They steal the name because it sells. The Commitee is selling Obama to the public and they probably believe the controversy helps establish Obama as a "real" American. TWGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02592548268341500443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-62599914853867306592013-01-12T18:47:53.715-08:002013-01-12T18:47:53.715-08:00Webb,
Yet another reason I don't get into this...Webb,<br />Yet another reason I don't get into this junk that often, way insider. I appreciate your plugging through however and hell, if you learned something then all the better!Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-81963922101515109972013-01-12T18:41:50.389-08:002013-01-12T18:41:50.389-08:00You all are wy over my head, but fortunately i don...You all are wy over my head, but fortunately i dont particularly like Korbel any way ,<br /><br />And, who knew fume blanc was sauvignon blanc? I did learn something today, i think!webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168174623602308906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-14041802696434199582013-01-12T17:42:06.877-08:002013-01-12T17:42:06.877-08:00Rogue Wino,
Exactly. The point, the whole fucking ...Rogue Wino,<br />Exactly. The point, the whole fucking point, is that they are "fooling" people otherwise there would be none of this bull crap. To act as if this is somehow a French issue is like those republicans acting as if the heckling and pointing of a bony finger in Obama's face was not because he's black...just untrue. Bottom line is there would be no issue had the place names not been stolen in the first place. To continue the practice is either to mislead your consumers or because you feel that putting California sparkling wine on the label somehow makes it less prestigious....which in turn tells us how you feel about sparkling wine from California, as in, it's not as good. I mean, if it were, why wouldn't it be all over the label? Use Napa or Duck on your label and you get either sued or threatened by your fellow "Merikan" but the French are being dicks? Yeah, tells ms a lot more about the eye-rollers than the "snooty" French. <br /><br />Thomas,<br />Right? I've tried not to get too pissy but it just kind of reminds me of the, "Maybe she shouldn't have dressed like that if she wasn't asking for it" kind of hollow thinking. A press release is stupid but stealing a regional name and using it on your wine, NOT from that region or country even isn't? Makes zero sense to me. Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-65065971111583611962013-01-12T16:15:23.352-08:002013-01-12T16:15:23.352-08:00Why doesn't some enterprising French winemaker...Why doesn't some enterprising French winemaker produce a Napa Cabernet somewhere in the Languedoc?Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-36454812610169500282013-01-12T14:29:26.684-08:002013-01-12T14:29:26.684-08:00The misleading label thing creates problems for pe...The misleading label thing creates problems for people trying to sell and educate about wine. I've had customers straight up accuse me of lying when I've tried to explain that fume blanc was no more than a (stupid) marketing term for suavignon blanc.<br />As an aside, an out-of-state guest once asked me why we didn't have Korbel on our wine list. Isn't it one of California's premiere champagnes? he asked me. That threw me for a loopRogue Winohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963991830248344293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-9121197504112352262013-01-12T11:55:13.031-08:002013-01-12T11:55:13.031-08:00Ron My Love,
And another defending of the dishones...Ron My Love,<br />And another defending of the dishonest practice in the form of, "Oh they should just get over it" and you are wrong Love, they are fooling lots and lots of people which is why people don't know that Champagne isn't bubbly wine, that it's a place, therefore making my job way the fuck harder. Kills me that you guys are defending this bullshit and acting like the French were wrong for pointing it out, rather than pointing out the glaring fact that Korbel is not only wrong...in the actual factual way, like incorrect, for using the name Champagne on the label, that they are saying that California sparkling isn't as good by not wanting to proudly display it on their label. But you're probably right, lets just ignore it. Funny no one ignored it when Franzia used Napa in the name of a wine that was not from Napa...but that's totally different, he's not French. I love you Baby but I disagree with you here...Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-85663446281323096112013-01-12T11:36:49.488-08:002013-01-12T11:36:49.488-08:00My Gorgeous Samantha,
And, frankly, I'm sick o...My Gorgeous Samantha,<br />And, frankly, I'm sick of McDonald's insulting the people of Hamburg too. Just call 'em meat doilies and be done with it.<br /><br />Unfortunately for the folks in Champagne, it's become a generic word like Kleenex or Google (as in "wipe that Google off your nose with this Kleenex"). So they are in for a long fight, and one they'd be better off just ignoring most of the time. Korbel has gotten millions of dollars of publicity thanks to the Champagne folks. They should have politely contacted the person who wrote the menu, had it changed, and NOT sent out some stupid press release. <br /><br />But, as always, you're right, Samantha, it's disingenuous and dishonest of Korbel to continue to put California Champagne on their label. However, it ain't foolin' anybody. You can throw a "Miss America" sash over STEVE!, but that don't make it so.<br /><br />I love you! <br /><br />Ron Washam, HMWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238869156614617705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-87116887319343373612013-01-12T10:47:30.761-08:002013-01-12T10:47:30.761-08:00Alfonso,
Gotta love yer snark.
Thomas,
This was d...Alfonso,<br />Gotta love yer snark.<br /><br />Thomas,<br />This was damn short and written in my "fuck you pompous asshats" early morning fog, so I didn't get too drug in. Plus I didn't even bother commenting over at Tom's which last I checked was full of eye-rolling, California wine promoters so disingenuous, and uninformed that they make me crave tight neck flesh in the palms of my hands. Ack! I think I might be annoyed and junk. I loathe comparisons and believe that there are beautiful sparkling wines made here in California but they aren't Champagne, just as Alsace and Jura sparkling wines aren't Champagne...and trust me, should one of those Domaines from Alsace or Jura try to label their bubbles as Champagne the French would come down on their French necks too. Not and us and them thing, it's a protection of place name thing, period and for Americans to act like they are being picked on when they were in the wrong from the git, well you are either full of shit or just dumb. Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-71781830860401287542013-01-12T10:22:39.960-08:002013-01-12T10:22:39.960-08:00So glad that Sam doesn't get sucked into these...So glad that Sam doesn't get sucked into these things. Imagine how long the post would have been had she been sucked in.<br /><br />This is one that I stayed out of--mostly. First, because the argument is tired and second, because PR people who support use of names that don't belong to them are largely being disingenuous.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-59035977411672252102013-01-12T09:51:14.860-08:002013-01-12T09:51:14.860-08:00And while we’re at it, let’s lose those place name...And while we’re at it, let’s lose those place name rip-off’s too, like New “York”, New “York, “Italy”, Texas and “San Pedro” California…<br /><br />;^0Alfonso Cevolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16983431475848714789noreply@blogger.com