tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post5297984871338514548..comments2024-02-28T21:09:17.490-08:00Comments on Samantha Sans Dosage: Critic CriticismSamantha Duganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-39008008165136295452012-09-28T11:10:39.645-07:002012-09-28T11:10:39.645-07:00Sam,
I am not talking about the retailer; I'm...Sam,<br /><br />I am not talking about the retailer; I'm talking about the consumer.<br /><br />A good retailer, and there doesn't seem to be many of those around, does exactly what you do. <br /><br />Ron,<br /><br />It's in the nature of creative ego to assume that what you do is what is supposed to be done. Ever talk to a chef?<br /><br />The problem arises when you call everyone else's work shit. That's less about your ego (which isn't necessarily a bad thing to have) and more about your fear that someone else might be better than you (which is a bad thing to be thinking). <br /><br /><br />Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-26584433063207299442012-09-28T08:46:58.395-07:002012-09-28T08:46:58.395-07:00Charlie,
Has it ever been any different in the win...Charlie,<br />Has it ever been any different in the wine business? Perhaps there was a time when winemakers were less eager to criticize others, but it seems to me that most of them have always thought that they made wine the way it's supposed to be, and their neighbors had strange and misguided ideas.<br /><br />Ron Washam, HMWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238869156614617705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-20283777652105870232012-09-28T07:44:09.776-07:002012-09-28T07:44:09.776-07:00Marcia,
Can't do it any other way!
Sir Charl...Marcia,<br /><br />Can't do it any other way!<br /><br />Sir Charles,<br /><br />I have to say, I find it down-right distasteful when winemakers go after and shit talk on one another. Show me what you're doing and let me decide how I feel about what your neighbor or the winery down the road is. I have been turned off, big time, by Schramsberg because one of their reps insists on bad mouthing Champagne producers....relentlessly, in an effort to show how great their wines are. Dude, just pour me your stuff and stop with the, "This is why we're better than them" bullshit. <br /><br />Don't know the answer to the cheery cordial question but anyone that gave that Molly Dooker Blue Eyed Boy 98 points, had to love cordials.....blech.<br /><br />Thomas,<br /><br />This is where retail is different, it is my job to care about, remember and buy wines for someone else's palate. It's what sets our store apart from the corporate monsters, personal attention. Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-21776466464232836972012-09-28T06:44:11.136-07:002012-09-28T06:44:11.136-07:00Charlie,
In my view, the fact that winemakers can...Charlie,<br /><br />In my view, the fact that winemakers can't agree supports the notion that criticism is off base. If a winemaker sets out to create a certain style of wine, and succeeds at it, then a critic has nothing but his/her own palate to talk about and (now I disagree with Sam and those who say we should calibrate our palates): who cares about someone else's palate? I prefer to do my own research.<br /><br /><br />To me, if the winemaker has created what he/she set out to create that represents having passed the second test of quality (the first test having to do with flaws). Whether I or anyone likes or dislikes what that winemaker has done is not a matter for criticism, because that is the slippery slope to being an arbiter; it is simply a matter for moving on. If I wasted money on that bottle, I just think about all the bad movies that I wasted money on, or the bad dates...Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-10883264943393832202012-09-28T00:56:01.216-07:002012-09-28T00:56:01.216-07:00There is an interesting question underlying your c...There is an interesting question underlying your comments, Sam.<br /><br />If someone disagrees with you and likes ripe and rich wines, does that make them a lover of cherry cordials?<br /><br />I think you are on the right track with your final comments about "Who's right? You are."<br /><br />I recently spent a week in Santa Barbara County meeting with as many winemakers as would make time for me. The war of taste is not confined to critics or retailers. Talk about two different planets. These folks can barely talk to each other and openly disdain the efforts of others. They have no room in the lives for difference. It is my way or the highway.<br /><br />Wine does not work that way for most writers. That is why I can praise the work of and collect Corison and Ridge Cabs while still loving Chappellet, Staglin and Shafer. <br /><br />It's OK if one does not share my broader view, but it is not OK to put it down because it does not comport to that of the writer in the local rag.<br /><br />And, for the record, I don't like cherry cordials or marzipan.<br /><br />As always, hugs--Charlie Olkenhttp://www.cgcw.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-2917255079919808982012-09-27T21:49:20.563-07:002012-09-27T21:49:20.563-07:00Back to the Algonquin room, loves! (Love the rant ...Back to the Algonquin room, loves! (Love the rant on rants!) Must agree with Thomas: Some of the comments that get going elsewhere make me want to...well, in the old days it would have been 'turn the page.' Now it is 'change the URL.'<br /><br />Keep doin' it your way! We like it that way.Marcia Macomberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07237764449953259939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-14205342353699886362012-09-27T17:17:43.101-07:002012-09-27T17:17:43.101-07:00And I'm just a girl that adores you for it.And I'm just a girl that adores you for it. Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-43373922883683717042012-09-27T16:54:14.866-07:002012-09-27T16:54:14.866-07:00Sense and junk? Me?
I'm just an ordinary guy ...Sense and junk? Me?<br /><br />I'm just an ordinary guy who hates aesthetic criticism, and who whines about it at every chance...Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-85457914278014787232012-09-27T14:24:25.587-07:002012-09-27T14:24:25.587-07:00Dammit Thomas, why you gotta go make sense and jun...Dammit Thomas, why you gotta go make sense and junk?!Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-48164325027095297032012-09-27T13:47:15.147-07:002012-09-27T13:47:15.147-07:00But, but, Sam, haven't you just whined about t...But, but, Sam, haven't you just whined about the whiners?<br /><br />Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-65996119284908527522012-09-27T12:11:04.681-07:002012-09-27T12:11:04.681-07:00Ron My Love,
I dig it when you do it, and because...Ron My Love,<br /><br />I dig it when you do it, and because you do it for the right reasons, to laugh and makes others do so as well. It's the people that get so wound up and irate, act as if they know what they're talking about and seem to hack away at critics for sport. Just tired of that bullshit. I was reading a thread over on Dr Vino and the comments there just kind of triggered this mini rant. Well that and seeing as I haven't wanted to write anything lately I thought I would get sauced up and let it fly....kind of like a penguin as it turns out. Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-22877093217528452122012-09-27T10:41:32.332-07:002012-09-27T10:41:32.332-07:00My Gorgeous Samantha,
I read wine critics now for ...My Gorgeous Samantha,<br />I read wine critics now for the sheer entertainment and comedy of it all. It's simple human nature to rank, rate and list things. We do that to anything that matters to us. I see it as a way of reflecting the critic, not the wine.<br /><br />So many folks out there rating wines, paid critics and poor bloggers, and yet fewer than eight have any real impact. You sell more wine in a week than all but those imaginary eight sell combined in ten years. I'm sure you know that. <br /><br />But it's great fun for me to bash wine critics, though I don't want to put my pimply ass on Parker's old throne. Not sure he remembers to lift the seat. You are right that he is not responsible for the Parkerization of wine. Greed is responsible for that. If Alice ruled the world, imagine what crap would be out there now.<br /><br />And there's nothing better than waking up to you writing full speed ahead. Terrific.<br /><br />I Love You!Ron Washam, HMWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238869156614617705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-53780309721007633722012-09-27T09:12:04.313-07:002012-09-27T09:12:04.313-07:00OTP,
Makes sense, I had a few, (cough-like five) w...OTP,<br />Makes sense, I had a few, (cough-like five) while "writing" it. Too bad you're a cartoon otherwise I would encourage you to get you one. Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4819829113979242722.post-23931540994551651162012-09-27T03:08:00.518-07:002012-09-27T03:08:00.518-07:00After reading that post, now I really need a drink...After reading that post, now I <b>really</b> need a drink.Opus T. Penguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10806236576348287466noreply@blogger.com